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Post by hooligan on Aug 15, 2014 3:27:46 GMT
Since this has been taking over the other threads, I thought I'd create a thread devoted to this topic so we wouldn't digress.
Personally, almost all of Embrace's singles are radio friendly, and to an extent, poppy and MOR. Of course, this isn't always a bad thing, but it can be annoying when Embrace makes singles that are exactly what every other indie band is doing. This is evident in singles like Make It Last and ICCD. Embrace can be adventurous in their singles, as evident in Hooligan and Refugees. They just choose not to be most of the time. What do you think?
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Post by Stephen on Aug 15, 2014 6:52:15 GMT
I think to be honest for a band like Embrace who have an already established fanbase and that have been away for so long they could have released the best song they've ever written and it wouldn't have done any better or raised their profile one iota - they're not a boyband of kids in their late teens or 20s, they were never going to get much radioplay or get their videos shown on the endless music channels.
Yeah it would be nice to see more edgy songs like Quarters released in a big way but seriously this discussion is almost irrelevant because of the way the music industry is, because of the state of the charts, the way people consume music, streaming, all those things.
I happen to like the singles choices they've made, even if mostly they have been the ballady tunes in general, but I like that side of Embrace as well as the other rockier side. And if people don't like the ballady, torch-waving side of the band, and they hear a song like Quarters or something heavier like that and then think all their stuff is like that they're gonna be sorely disappointed either way, and it's not as if if someone likes a single they'll just download or buy that song, if they're interested enough they'll hunt out the rest of their work because everything's available online all the time now, it's not like they have to go down the local HMV and root through the CDs, they can do it in the squalor of their own home on their phone.
What I'm kind of trying to say is that sadly, and I hate to admit it but Embrace have had their day, had their day in the sun, they're never going to be a massive band on the back of some breakthrough (or comeback) single and it Pretty much doesn't matter what they release by this stage I think.
Sounds defeatist but I think it's just realistic for a band at this stage of their career.
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Post by willow on Aug 15, 2014 12:52:33 GMT
I wouldn't rule it out completely. What's mainstream changes over time, Embrace will change their sound over time, if the two ever happen to coincide again then there's no reason why they can't be as famous as they were.
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Post by hooligan on Aug 16, 2014 3:51:31 GMT
And sometimes the two do overlap. Embrace had two top three singles from TND, eight years after their debut. So it's possible that Embrace's next album could have a hit single. We may just be in a period like IYNB, with little attention paid to the band. But Embrace should NOT record their next album with the goal of a hit single. That would only result in banal MOR shit.
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Post by bewildergirl on Aug 19, 2014 21:19:14 GMT
Quarters.
That is all.
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Post by retlivdead on Aug 19, 2014 21:43:58 GMT
A double A Side as next single. This one is going to fly out of iTunes.
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Post by buckley on Aug 20, 2014 11:02:11 GMT
Please tell me this wont be another waste of time, and that there will at least be some b-sides ?
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Post by tomw on Aug 20, 2014 14:09:55 GMT
A double A Side as next single. This one is going to fly out of iTunes. Is that confirmed? |
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Post by joshwood on Aug 20, 2014 16:19:31 GMT
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Post by tomw on Aug 20, 2014 19:23:57 GMT
Nice one! Hadn't seen that.
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Post by stuarty2003 on Aug 21, 2014 15:55:10 GMT
Protection should have been the next release.
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Post by hooligan on Aug 21, 2014 17:40:37 GMT
Now these are good singles! But the fact that this is a double a-side significantly decreases the chance of b-sides.  |
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Post by retlivdead on Aug 21, 2014 17:55:38 GMT
Considering the band said they wrote over 500 songs for the album you'd think more than 15 of them would see the light of day.
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Post by buckley on Aug 21, 2014 18:33:00 GMT
Considering the band said they wrote over 500 songs for the album you'd think more than 15 of them would see the light of day. You would hope and think so. Considering that the only people interested in this are Embrace fans will have the album already, then with no b-sides no Embrace fans will buy it either so who on earth are they expecting to buy it. |
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Post by firstcut on Aug 22, 2014 13:38:58 GMT
Considering the band said they wrote over 500 songs for the album you'd think more than 15 of them would see the light of day. fairly sure bands often claim to have written hundreds of songs towards one album to try and display how creative they are, and therefore the new album must be amazing because of this (when i think the oppositive is true). who actually believes the band worked on that many songs? i wouldn't even believe that many had been written and if they had, the majority would surely be awful. the fact that they've released so few songs and now nearing the album cycle shows the talk of having mountains of songs is nonsense. typically when pushed on quotes like that, suddenly the songs were just half ideas with no lyrics and were mostly rubbish. releasing a double a-side is pointless and confirms that they have no faith in either song doing much - so why bother? release new material instead, but it seems the well is dry. |
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Post by hooligan on Aug 23, 2014 0:03:52 GMT
What Embrace should do is release some non album singles from the same sessions as the Embrace album. These wouldn't need to be for airplay, but would be a way to give the fans more songs. Kind of like what Radiohead was doing with their Supercollider/The Butcher single.
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Post by buckley on Aug 23, 2014 6:58:41 GMT
What Embrace should do is release some non album singles from the same sessions as the Embrace album. These wouldn't need to be for airplay, but would be a way to give the fans more songs. Kind of like what Radiohead was doing with their Supercollider/The Butcher single. Agreed. These "single" releases are basically in name only, as they dont chart, dont get playlisted and dont sell anything. It wouldnt suprise me if we dont even get a video for these. Such a shame. Would have loved to have heard some more new material. |
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Post by hooligan on Aug 27, 2014 0:25:02 GMT
Agreed. These "single" releases are basically in name only, as they dont chart, dont get playlisted and dont sell anything. It wouldnt suprise me if we dont even get a video for these. Such a shame. Would have loved to have heard some more new material. Remember how the I Run video screwed up the "backwards story" videos. Nobody wants more of those "360" videos. Perhaps (though I seriously doubt it) they will continue the story with videos for this single. If not for MTV rotation at least for the fans. |
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Post by willow on Aug 28, 2014 0:00:24 GMT
Agreed. These "single" releases are basically in name only, as they dont chart, dont get playlisted and dont sell anything. It wouldnt suprise me if we dont even get a video for these. Such a shame. Would have loved to have heard some more new material. Remember how the I Run video screwed up the "backwards story" videos. Nobody wants more of those "360" videos. Perhaps (though I seriously doubt it) they will continue the story with videos for this single. If not for MTV rotation at least for the fans. The band have said though that those three videos (Refugees, FYH and I Run) are connected so I think that was the third video. The plot doesn't really make sense to me either though if it is. |
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Post by merrymi on Dec 22, 2015 9:12:23 GMT
merry chirstmas
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